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Post by darioaurelio on Apr 28, 2009 17:29:16 GMT
Hi. I will create a socialist party in Portugal in may.
If that happens i want to have a huge Socialist project in Portugal, wich my party i want to be linked to the international, and it will have a newspaper for spreading the socialist power and words.
Can you manage me some help? im new in the international..
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Post by Anatoliovich on Apr 29, 2009 10:37:20 GMT
Do you have any assured followers?
Isn't there already a Portuguese Communist Party?
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Post by darioaurelio on Apr 29, 2009 11:45:32 GMT
Do you have any assured followers? Isn't there already a Portuguese Communist Party? I have already gathered 17 folowers, and we continue to spread the word. Yes, Portugal has the PReC party, that represents communism. But its a party that is in the congress supporting the social-democrat party in the power. Its unanimous for a lot of players that they need opossition at the left, and that will be my party! |
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Post by chuikov on Apr 29, 2009 19:24:06 GMT
I will vouch for your request to fund your party. That is, if the current Portugese party proves to be another Social-Democratic party disguised as Communists.
We'll be doing some research into this matter.
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Post by Anatoliovich on Apr 29, 2009 19:38:59 GMT
I'd also like to state that making another party would only bring more political disagreement a larger split on the Left end of the spectrum in Portugal. We need unification, not more parties. There are 2-3 Far-Left parties already there. The aim should be to either win the election in the one with the Communist name or unify them together into becoming one single Far-Left group. Portugal would be Communist and ta-da!  |
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Post by darioaurelio on Apr 29, 2009 22:32:26 GMT
"Divide and Conquer"
This is my view. And that is because yes, there left parties in portugal. Representation in congress? Few...
In government? One or two in the ministeries, that follow the president (center party) ideas. In my followers, the most of it, are people that are dissapointed with the left in Portugal.
Lets see, why isnt any left party of Portugal member of the international??...humm..
And how do i manage to found it? I havr connects with the socialist spain party, wiht USB from Brasil...
PRec?? nothing...
If they arent corromped, they are, at least, zombies...because they do not seek world wide spread of socialism
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Post by Riza Karabasan on Apr 29, 2009 23:02:35 GMT
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Post by Anatoliovich on Apr 30, 2009 0:30:15 GMT
I agree again and stress unification greatly in order to avoid any pointless spending of funds (no offense). With the information Riza presented, and the PM I recieved, there is no reason to have another Left-wing party in Portugal, but there is a reason to bring all of them together.
I personally believe that socialism Internationally should be achieved after Socialism state-wide (though that's very limited of me, but I digress).
In truth you should focus on getting people together.
If you can unify them all, you'll have my support.
Good luck (if you choose that as your goal).
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Post by Riza Karabasan on Apr 30, 2009 3:10:24 GMT
As Anatol said, unification is very important since there are not much leftists around the world. But don't get discouraged. Try to reach to the other parties and their members in ePortugal. We can contact them too if you want. If you want to join something international, you can join to the revolution in eThailand too  |
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Post by arbus on May 1, 2009 15:03:38 GMT
Hi, I'm the president of PReC, the one in the interview.
We are not zombies, we have a newspapper, we have active members participating in our private forum, we allways pursuit left wing socialist policies.
Now here's the thing, Portugal is already in a socialist path, with a huge contribution from us, the communists. Forget about supposed ideologies and look at reality, our state companies (which exist thank to us) are non-profit, it's written in the contract, they must share the wealth with the workers. We had to allow for more private iniciative because the production formulas changed and we had to face a scarcity of raws in our country. We have adapated, and the state has an increasing role in the economy, with companies in evert sector. We want to achieve even more, but that takes time, you don't go from capitalism to communism, you need patience, presistance, and a commitement from the whole society.
In Portugal the communist party has an active and influential role, we are not driven by social-democracy, we are realistic and know that every step takes time. Ours is a history of sucess, we've been in the government since november, and thanks to that Portugal has now a constitutions that allowed us to keep the state companies. We push private entreprises to pay fair salaries and low prices, we keep a reserve of gold and weapons for the army, to secure our independence.
So yes, PReC is a real revolutionary and communist party, that with a realistic approach was able to achieve things in reality, by taking the socialist path to communism. A socialist party would not only divide the left, but actually constitute a step backwards.
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Post by Riza Karabasan on May 1, 2009 18:19:33 GMT
That's a nice explanation. We should open a board for you too. |
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Post by Anatoliovich on May 1, 2009 18:44:23 GMT
Welcome Arbus, to the forum. If you'd like us to, we can open your own board here on the Internationale (this forum having History since the early Beta version of eRepublik). Simply give the word, and you may begin to flock over your most important, or even better yet, all of your members, in order for us Communists to have a better communication amongst one another. We are slowly starting to update the site and make some changes, especially with the forum skin, and soon we'll be getting more and more active. Enjoy your stay. |
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Post by comandanta on May 1, 2009 23:47:01 GMT
Hi arbus!
Thanks for the update! I have to admit in shame that I had no idea of the situation of ePortugal. From what you write (did I also read somewhere that you can't invade sovereign territory, by constitution-contract?), it sounds really well and even tempting to move. The language is a bit of a barrier for me, though.
That said, the barter offers from our coops in eSpain would probably not extend to state industries, but please check the suggestions subforum to see what I'm talking about. Do you have any "private" initiative in ePortugal that in practise also operates according to egalitarian / solidarity principles, like us?
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Post by Riza Karabasan on May 2, 2009 6:42:04 GMT
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Post by Joseph Kalinin on May 5, 2009 14:45:31 GMT
I encourage you to join the one who currently exists.. I talked to the president of the party and he is a good communist. It would be better for you to unite..
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