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Post by Manifesto on Jan 20, 2009 2:54:35 GMT
Hello comrades,
It is high time that we begin to formulate a first draft of the eSocialist Internationale's Manifesto - a declaration of our aims, goals, and beliefs and a call to arms of the workers of the world.
The document should be very general and quite brief. We should provide a description of the past and (a projection of the) future of eRepublik and the economic, political, and military classes the working people fight. We need to solidify our dialectic understanding of the eRepublik capitalist-imperialist system.
Next, we need to spell out:
-The goals of the workers (anti-imperialism, perhaps global federalism, autogestion, democracy, communal structure of society)
-How to attain that goal (militant politics, workers militia in the case of combating imperialism, international solidarity, organization of unions)
-How to maintain power and dissolve class antagonism, which we will base of experiences in Russia, Portugal, the UK, etc.
At this point, just throw around and discuss ideas. Any thing can be suggested. Once there's enough content, I will go ahead and write the Manifesto.
Give 'er.
-Manifesto
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Duncomrade
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Yay!
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Post by Duncomrade on Jan 20, 2009 4:33:40 GMT
My opinions
Goals:
- anti imperialism of course
- global federalism; we need details of what aspects the "federal" global government would handle and what each member state can manage autonomously.
- autogestion, obviously; company managers must be elected.
- democracy; we should encourage Parties to be internally democratic, but we shouldnt exclude authoritarian leftist parties, as long as their goal is autogestion.
How to obtain goals
- any means, except exploitation of game bugs. Political takeovers, such as what eRomania did to eRussia, are still disdained by the international eRepublik community.
Maintaining power
- I think in eRussia we were too soft. We should have used the state treasury aggressively to fund our Communes and rapidly build our economic base without worrying about capitalist opposition. With resulting widespread autogestion, the public would have seen the benfits of our system.
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Stian Pettersen
Comrade
What does not destroy me, makes me stronger.
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Post by Stian Pettersen on Jan 20, 2009 19:06:10 GMT
Well I pretty much agree with all of this. I think we should focus on keeping people active too. Without active people, we won't get anywhere.
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Post by chuikov on Jan 20, 2009 19:40:43 GMT
Well I pretty much agree with all of this. I think we should focus on keeping people active too. Without active people, we won't get anywhere. Indeed. Maybe we need some bureaucracy to make this work (I certainly hope not). We should be focusing on establishing Soviets, in my opinion. We need the workers to organize in unions or Soviets to increase the revolutionary spirit amongst the proletariat. |
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Post by Manifesto on Jan 21, 2009 1:02:59 GMT
We don't want to get into too much detail and focus on specifics in this particular document, but it will describe a united international federation of workers states.
I believe it should be by any means necessary. The capitalists and imperialists certainly won't hold back when the masses are at their front gate... and they will get away with it (such as Romania).
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Post by foreignlegion on Jan 21, 2009 5:07:11 GMT
My opinions
Goals:
Oppress the Kurds
How to obtain goals:
Military superiority
Maintaining power:
Occupy Kurdistan and quell any forms of resistance with military force.
Mines a work in progress but i think once we work out the kinks its a damn good manifesto.
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Post by pharaoh on Jan 21, 2009 14:29:15 GMT
Communism itself had already got a negative precedence in this game, if we also utilize the game exploit, we can not hope for enormous growth of supporter. |
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Post by jumala on Jan 21, 2009 16:54:41 GMT
Come on guys, this is a game. We should have fun and remember that eCapitalists are just teenage boys just as we are. Just keep it fair and have fun, don't bring real principles into this, especially when it means exploiting the game.
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Post by chuikov on Jan 21, 2009 17:22:40 GMT
Internetz are serious buisuness!1
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Post by foreignlegion on Jan 21, 2009 17:53:22 GMT
NOO its a Series of tubes!
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Post by chuikov on Jan 21, 2009 17:54:37 GMT
NOO its a Series of tubes! tuubeesss... That's it! |
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Post by jumala on Jan 21, 2009 21:59:53 GMT
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Post by Eternal Winter on Jan 22, 2009 23:02:44 GMT
lawl serious business
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Post by Manifesto on Jan 23, 2009 2:14:30 GMT
We obviously are not going to spell out that we are going to use exploits, we will make it clear that the working class will use any means necessary to oust the bourgeois class... they certainly wont hold back!
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Post by jumala on Jan 23, 2009 7:21:20 GMT
We obviously are not going to spell out that we are going to use exploits, we will make it clear that the working class will use any means necessary to oust the bourgeois class... they certainly wont hold back! But it's not fair. |
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