The Internationale organization and its purpose.

[chuikov]

We should expand the Internationale into eRepublik. Not just through articles, but create actual organizations! The idea of purchasing Internationale owned and operated organizations, not just to store our funds but also to also create the Internationale newspaper!

There's a whole lot to be decided concerning the subject, as in where this organization should be founded for example. Maybe we should found one Internationale organization in each country to increase the presence of the left-wing revolutionaries aswell. We could later on go as far as to create communes owned by the Internationale organizations if we would want to, but that's in the future.

For now, we must decide where our first Internationale organization should be created. As this being the first Internationale organization, it's obvious that this would become the headquarters of the Internationale movement! Second, each Internationale organization should have their own newspaper to keep the workers and intellectuals up-to-date on what's going on, not just in the Internationale, but progress reports on how the other parties are progressing aswell!

I can cover the expenses of creating the first organization, however, the newspaper must be bought by someone else as I can't afford it.

What is the most suitable place for creating the headquarters of the Internationale? Even if eRussia has a very succesful Communist party, I disagree on starting the Internationale headquarters in eRussia. The org. should be created in a country with large left-wing presence, such as Spain, Sweden or maybe the United Kingdom.

Please, this is the Internationale, feel free to discuss, critizise, suggest, etc!

[Radsoc]

I think that we only need one internationale organization.

[chuikov]

Indeed. I must say, that the money spent on creating an organization and a newspaper in every country would become very expensive. The point why I suggested having multiple organizations and newspapers is to let the people know we're actually here, again. But we must be realistic, we can't spend this much gold on this matter. At least not now.

What we need, in this case, is one organization with one newspaper and an active staff behind this. This option would require moving the organization around a lot to get subscribers. Anyways, we'll have to postpone this matter until the Congress has been assembled or a special exception is made by the Chairman.

[Manifesto]

I'm in favor on the creation of an Internationale bank, which will hold funds to support for workers movements around the world (and assisting in the funding of armed struggles where needed).
As for communes and newspapers, I can see the latter being worked in by owning newspapers in countries around the world (we can most likely get them donated by loyal comrades who already have papers) and publishing print... but communes could be a difficult one to incorporate. I believe it is best that we assist communist parties around the world establish their own communes rather than take control of them ourselves.

[chuikov]

The reason why I suggested that we, the Internationale, should control the newspaper in all ways is to 1) We know it's here, the author of the newspaper is not away 2) We know the user's not going to "quit" one day. The speculations could go on and on. This organization does not even have the team to run the newspaper system, yet.

As for the communes, I agree with you. This board doesn't have the manpower to run these companies to begin with. If a party creates a commune the proletarians will know they're working for the regional Communists, if the workers would work at an international owned and operated by the people, then I belive we'll get the free spirit of internationalism with this investment. Anyways, this is very unlikely to ever happen, but we shouldn't close any possibilities.

[Eternal Winter]

Hmm, from my point of view of this situation, it would seem more logical to me to leave the Internationale itself out of physically being apart of eRep.

I believe what gives the Internationale such great potential for a socialist's wet dream is that its an organization that will be ran and governed as a global socialist presence but cannot be interfered with in game by admins, capitalists, etc.

The Internationale offers its participants backing by other socialist parties either militarily, financially, politically, etc. This is the greatest use for the Internationale as it is basically a place where communist parties can get together and help each other prosper in the very capitalistic eWorld. It gives the sense of belonging to a political group that is often frowned upon.

The problem with having a country in general in eRepublik, like we experienced in Russia, is that there will always be an opposition despite the political ideologies involved. One person hordes people to vote them into power and then the cycle continues next election with a different party. If you bring everyone from every socialist party to a single country and try and run a socialist economy, it simply will not be as efficient as planned due to the pestering presence of the capitalists.

It honestly seems like the same situation as the CPSU, but on a potentially global scale. Though the CPSU wouldn't be in power if Romania didn't invade, we are still just as good off as we would be under the FRP's rule. Because of our communes, we are equally parallel in the amount of power we hold. They cannot affect our party's elections because we only allow our members to participate while country elections can be manipulated and over taken. Hell, we don't even need a country to operate our communes and be self sufficient :3

So from this point of view, if you were to manifest the presence of the Internationale in game if you were not just satisfied with a forum, the best way to do it would be through a party regardless of where it is located. Once established, companies need to be formed through the use of donations and then workers need to work for food basically so that the economy works in their favor.

Elections can take place just like CPSU, where we have different quality communes and who manages them. As for the trusting thing, just make different passwords for every commune and change them every election. There shouldn't be much to worry about though if everyone is working towards the same goal and no one is trying to become corrupt. If you lose one commune, its a lot better than having all the communes under the same password or same account, so its just a safety system.

So by this example, the strength of a people is not found by the country they live in but they party they are associated with. With our party, we hold our own elections, have our own economy that rivals any competition and quite frankly ruins any economy we're placed in, and is impervious to any outside interruptions. The Internationale can have this as well but it could be used on a global scale or just start a chain of communes and eventually become a super power due to its funds and man power.

I can see the advantages of having the Internationale as strictly a organization for socialists a lot more than creating a party in a country. This place to me is more about giving support to fellow comrades around the world and basically forming alliances with other parties when they are in need. An Internationale commie army is a perfect example. It worked well and it was well mixed with people from parties all over the world sent to where they are needed by other comrades. So even if you don't want to implement the Internationale in game, it still works as it is as a forum.

This Internationale has so much potential as a social network between communist parties and hopefully communist countries later down the road. This is the first stepping stone to progressing to global communist awareness.

Sorry for the wall of text :3

[chuikov]

There are two reasons why I'm proposing the creation of an Internationale org:

1. This is a safe place to use as a bank for the Internationale.

2. We can maintain the international newspaper[/b] (if one is to be created).

3. More people will get to know the Internationale. There's a whole bunch of eleftists out there who don't even know this exists, we need more members and more parties.

[Manifesto]

I'm in favor of an Internationale Org just to hold worldwide newspapers and act as a bank.
It will not be used so much as a political force in itself.

[chuikov]

The problem with having one newspaper is that whoever operates the newspaper must travel around a lot. There's no good in an international newspaper if it's only readable in one country alone.

[Jari Tuominen]

Ok, stupid suggestion here (trust me, I'm full of them :3) but how many active members is The Internationale made up of?

If it's a good amount, we could just ask that they subscribe to the paper, then vote it up to an international level every time an article is published. 200 Votes should do it. Also, you don't need to move to change your paper's location (I think). Under the newspaper options you can choose the country its published in. If we just alternate between countries that have prominent amounts of members, would that not work too?

[chuikov]

If we'd get the votes from the CPC, MSWP, SSP and RRF we'd reach 200+. However, if this doesn't work, someone has got to start moving around. Besides, I doubt every article is voted up to 200+. I find it hard to belive that eSocialists through the eWorld will all subscribe at the first time.

[Manifesto]

I believe you can own multiple newspapers... each in different countries (just like companies). I could be wrong though.

[chuikov]

If that is the case, it'd solve our problem.

[Heymans]

You cannot

[Duncomrade]

"Note: Newspapers begin in the country of the creator. However, you can change the location of your newspaper without purchasing a moving ticket."
wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/Newspaper

I agree with forming an eInternationale SO as a bank and newspaper. As you see above, the newspaper can publish articles in any country without moving the SO.

I think Communes should be managed by individual Parties within their own country, not by the eInternationale. If Communes want to co-operate internationally then they can discuss it between themselves.